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  1. That's why I hate apartments, condos, highrise. There are smaller ones on Amazon from $120 to a $280. The smaller ones are cool and don't run on lots of power. I want one of those just to get away from buying charcoal n lighter fluid. Use wood chips for taste. It would be quicker or longer slow maintained cooking. That's why I'd like one. Saves work, saves money and is efficient.

  4. The globalists want everything electric as it is centralized making it easier to control how much you use. EVs are a scam and will either away when the government subsidies dry up like they will be doing in 1st Q 2025. Similarly, only globalist run states such as California will outlaw gas grills which are and always will be far superior to electric grills.

  20. I don't understand what this guy is talking about. The practical limitation of electric grills has EVERYTHING to do with how much power you can stuff in the heating elements. Not every house even has 120V outdoor outlets, and 240V+ outdoor outlets are almost non existent. Given that even at 30A a 120V circuit can only provide 3600W of power, 6000W at 50A, and so forth… this equated to about two electric cooktop burners at full blast. That still pales in comparison to a run of the mill propane grill heat output since a 3600W electric burner is equivalent to 12300BTU, and 20500BTU for the 6000W electric burner, respectively. SO, what does this mean?

    You're going to need a 240V outdoor power supply. I'd say to reach PARITY with an average gas grill (30K-100K BTU), you'll need a minimum of 14.4kW, which is 240V 60A. This is essentially the same MINIMUM power requirement for an at-home electric car charger. Some models even go up to 19.2kW! THIS is the level of power you need for a TRULY competitive electric grill.

    Nice thing about a theoretical high performance electric grill? Well for one, the equipment to power them already exists in the form of EV charger equipment, and already come usually precertified with an IP rating for outdoor use.

    Other things to consider:
    1. Super high heat and a tice convection
    2. High Performance INFRARED cooking
    3. You CAN still get smoky flavor with smoking chips, so this argument is invalid
    4. Given higher efficiency AND lower cost to power per unit (at full blast, say 19.2kW, at the US average cost per kWh ($0.142/kWh), it would cost you a whopping $2.73 to run per hour.
    5. IF they can figure out how to make pellets smoke-off without any flame, this will be even better, but I think the woodchip smoker modules are a just-fine solution anyway.
    6. No flame and no hydrocarbon fuel means no explosion risk, no greenhouse gas emissions, and no trips to the U-Haul store to get refills.
    7. DOES NOT have to be computer controlled either, but the option is there for high fidelity cooking control. (ie, inverter powered, versus PWM, and so forth).
    8. Given the no-flame nature, there is less of an oxidative environment, so electric grills are far less susceptible to corrosion. I can attest to this FIRST HAND as someone who owns 2 gas grills, 1 electric one, and a pellet smoker. Out of all the grills I have ever owned, the electric char-broil and the pellet grills have resisted corrosion better than any gas grills I have ever owned.

    I WILL say this: pellet grills DO circumvent the power density issue. They use as much electric power as possible to carefully maintain a small but high intensity pellet burn, that is usually highly self contained and CANNOT sustain (usually flame free) combustion without electric power to the fans and heating elements (and even the pellet auger feed). Apartment complexes and HOAs should really reconsider their stance on pellet grills and pellet smokers. They are an entirely different breed to gas grills, and even electric grills.

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